Give-To-Ask Ratio: Comparing The Emails of Tim Ferriss And Seth Godin

I’m subscribed to emails from both Tim Ferriss and Seth Godin.

They’re authors/marketers and are in the business of sharing information, knowledge, wisdom, or whatever you want to call it. You know, ideas. The same kind of self-improvement crap I write about.

Their emails certainly have different Give-To-Ask Ratios.*

Let’s take a look at their most recent creations.

TIM FERRISS

  • Over 1,000 words across 5 content blocks. It was so long I had to break it up into multiple screenshots.
  • An absurd amount of links. I counted around 68?!
  • HOWEVER: With so much content, I’d expect there would be a takeaway for the reader. But I don’t think there’s anything in this email that isn’t ads or calls to action. Everything in it is monetized! There’s no inherent value — the reader needs to leave the email (by clicking on one of the 68 things).

RATIO: Lots of Ask, very little Give.

As opposed to Seth…


SETH GODIN

  • 212 words about a single concept.
  • Minimal links.
  • ALL value to the reader, no ads or calls to action.

RATIO: Lots of Give, very little Ask.

I don’t know if I could find two more opposite extreme examples.

As a writer (and by default, a marketer?), I think about this. I’ve tried different ratios.

I’m not here to say which one is objectively bad.

My question: which would I rather be?

Tim’s aggressive style must be getting results — or he wouldn’t be doing it.

But as a reader, I definitely prefer Seth’s.

I think that answers my question.

-Carl.

Extra Credit: Tim and Seth are friends. Here’s a video of them doing their thing together.

*Alex Hormozi explains: “Thankfully, the give-to-ask ratio has been well-studied. Television averages 13 minutes of advertising per 60 minutes of air time. That means 47 minutes are dedicated to ‘giving,’ and 13 minutes are dedicated to ‘asking.’ That’s roughly a 3.5:1 ratio of giving to asking. On Facebook, it’s roughly 4 content posts for every 1 ad on the newsfeed.”

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